I'm interested in the Motorola DTR radios and have a few questions: 1) Can the free programming software work with the DTR550 or only the DTR410? I have seen reviews that say you need to buy the software to program the 550 and the free only programs the 410 BUT when I downloaded the software it seems to be for all radios? Note, I don't have a radio to verify this, thus the question. 2) With the new firmware on the 410, what are the software differences between the 410 and the 550?
I need to talk to: all radios, a subset (store registers) and be able to radio individuals (one-to-one).W PS I tried searching the forums but the software won't let me search for DTR550 or just DTR, says the phrases are too short, but I wanted to find all posts on the DTR radios. I posted a good review on the DTR series on this forum.
As for the software, my review is a bit dated. Motorola has now rewritten the software for all DTR-series radios, and it is free: You will need a special programming cable though.
You also have several other alternatives. #1 - You can buy the mini-keyboard and use that to change the name of the default names to something more understandable. (You can also use it to send and/or program some text messages, but I have never used that capability.) #2 - You can program the radios manually to do everything you listed as needing. The only difference is that the radios and groups will be listed by number (public group1, public group2, radio 123456789, etc.) Based on what you stated, any of the three models will do what you need them to do. The new 410 software is similar to the 650 software, with the 'management functions.'
The 550 and 650 use replaceable rubber ducky antennas that give slightly longer range than the fixed antenna on the 410. Bottom line: great radios. Pick up a bunch of 410 radios and play with the programming. If, for some reason, you would prefer the radios to be named 'register 1' instead of '123456789' and the groups to be 'sales' instead of 'public group1' then buy the mini-keyboard or the programming cable. If it was me, I would get a programming cable and download the software. As long as you have a Windows computer with a serial port (I don't) that will be the best way to go.
As for radios, I have a 410 and a bunch of 550 radios. There is not much difference in range (they are all good) but I can put the longer rubber duck antenna on the 550s if I really need the extra half block of range. Plus, I use the 410 to do some of the management functions on my own net, such as synchronize times and enable remote monitoring. For my purposes, a mini-fleet of 550s plus one 410 was the best solution. Our hosts of this forum have about the best prices around and extraordinary customer service. Let me know if you have any further questions. I am pretty familiar with these radios.
Check out my detailed review of them in this forum under Product Reviews. (It says a review of the 550 but in fact I review all three.).
Thanks for the reply and info! Good to know the PC software will work with all radios now. I had seen your review of the radios, which really did help answer some questions I had. One quick followup question.
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Are there differences between the 550 and 410 with regard to group communications? The motorola spec sheets seem to list public groups with the 410 and public AND private groups with the 550. In my application I would need to either talk to all radios or a subset of radios (only some employees). Am I correct that this would be what Motorola calls a private group? In which case I would need the 550's? Maybe do what you did with one 410 for management.
I must say it's not very clear product differentiation between the three radios on Motorola's part! You are correct that information on how they differ is confusing. One reason is that the firmware has been upgraded on the 410, which is why it now has the same managerial functions as the 650, but a lot of information/advertising is outdated. 410: fixed antenna; public groups; managerial functions 550: replaceable antenna; public and private groups 650: replaceable antenna; public and private groups; managerial functions; larger battery; faster charger The very confusing part is the public/private groups and I am not even sure if I understand them thoroughly. (I programmed multiple public groups into my radios and don't use private groups.) Let me see if I can clarify. Let's suppose you run a retail store. You need radios for security, shipping, registers and management.
On all three models, you can program public groups called, for example: store (all radios), security, shipping, registers and management. They can all stay on their own public group ('security'), but any radio can go on any group and ask them to switch to the all-open public group ('store') if, for example, you need to do a group announcement. Also, any radio can call any other radio individually.
Cabo conversor usb serial leadership 8430. With the 550 and 650, you can program them slightly differently. You can make the store (all) as a public group and then program each department's radio as a private group, such as security, shipping, registers and management. The difference is that all radios are still open to public group (store) calls, but will also receive their private group calls on their respective programmed group without having to switch 'channels.' Also, unless you have programmed multiple private groups into every radio, 'registers' would not be able to switch channels to hear calls going to 'security.' Thus, the 550 (and perhaps one 650 for its management functions) would be a better choice if you want all radios to be open to wide group ('store') calls all the time but also open to their respective private groups calls ('registers') without switching anything.
All these groups can be programmed in to the radios right from the keyboard. You don't need the CPS or the mini-keyboard. What the customer programming software (CPS) does it make it much faster to program multiple radios.
Plus, the CPS or the mini-keyboard will be necessary if you want to program them with unique names. Without the mini-keyboard or CPS, your groups are listed on the face of the radio as: 'Public group1,' 'public group2,' 'public group3,' and the radios are '123456789,' and '133456789,' etc. With the mini-keyboard or the CPS, the groups can be listed on the radio face as: 'Management,' 'Registers,' 'Security' and the individual radios can be named 'Store manager,' 'Register 12,' etc.
Where can I get (the latest) CPS? From where you bought your radio. Or if you prefer.
The version of CPS I have gives error code #1057 when I read my new radio? The firmware version in the radio is newer than that which the CPS can support. You need to update your version of CPS. When I plug the programming cable into the PC, Windows does not make the 'USB Start' sound? This is correct, there is no 'intelligence' or level conversion in the programming cable.
This will only happen when you connect a radio. When I connect the radio to my PC, Windows asks for a driver? As far as I know, Windows 7 and 10 do not have this problem. This should only occur with Windows XP and 2000. The drivers are not signed and you need to install them manually by selecting 'Have Disk' and pointing to.
Windows will give a warning when installing this, you can ignore this warning. When I try to read the radio I get an error code #595?
Error 595 is generally caused by an IP address conflict. When your radio is connected to the PC, Windows sets up a network connection to the radio. The default IP address used for this connection is in the 192.168.10.x range (usually the radio is.1 and your PC is.2).
If you are going to be programming a lot of radios, the easiest solution would be to change the IP address range allocated to your PC on your LAN/WLAN network so that it is not in the same range as the radio. As soon as I plug the radio into the PC, I loose all network connectivity? The fix is to allocate a static metric to your LAN/WLAN connection:. Open the Network Connections folder. Right click the LAN or WiFi connection. Click Properties then go to Internet Protocol Version 4. Click Properties and go to Advanced.
Un-tick Automatic metric. Enter a 1 for the Interface metric. OK; OK; OK. This seems to occur mostly with Windows 7 PCs.
The reason is that Windows is somehow allocating a lower device metric to the MOTOTRBO radio and your PC now thinks it's the new network connection to use. If this is your only radio, simply change the Radio IP address in the codeplug or just switch off WiFi/unplug the LAN cable when programming your radio.
How do I program my radio? I've produced a number of tutorial videos and these are available on. How do I upgrade my MOTOTRBO radio? Via the CPS - see.
It takes about two minutes depending on the model and how good your PC is. Make sure the radio is properly powered during this process and that you don't mistakenly unplug the cable - otherwise you'll understand what some people mean by 'bricked'. If I clone my radio, the Radio ID is not overwritten? This can be turned off in the CPS. Go to EditPreferences and tick Clone Radio Identity. When I read a new radio, the CPS shows error code #1027 codeplug version not supported? Like nearly all Motorola radios, your MOTOTRBO radio has a regional ID.
Generally speaking, there are two possibilities: either you purchased the radio from another region (i.e. Grey market) or have downloaded a (pirate) copy of the CPS from the internet. In either case, you will need to contact the company who sold you this radio and request support from them. My problem isn't listed here, what now? If you work for a Motorola Platinum Partner or Distributor in, you can contact me directly. Otherwise you'll have to contact the company who sold you your radio. Or contact a Motorola Reseller by clicking.
I've tried to list the most common programming problems - if I've missed something, please add a comment here or have a look at the comments to see if anyone else asked the same question. Are you able to read the radio using a cable?
If not, then the CPS you have might be too old for this radio. Is the radio paired via Bluetooth? If not, you need to make sure the radio is paired to the PC and that Windows has the necessary drivers installed to support data.
The IP address of the PCs Bluetooth connection must be in the same subnet as the radio (this is set in the CPS) and the Bluetooth button must be active in order to read the radio. Unfortunately the error codes aren't that useful: 5470 just means that there is a link error. Sorry, I cannot help much here, you need to contact your local Motorola dealer if my suggestions don't work (click on MotorolaGetting Support at the top of this page). Using Chrome. I think timed out. I have a XPR4580 that I recently updated to digital with the entitlement key from Motorola.
Previous to that I was running it analog on 900MHz ham repeaters. After updating, I got a codeplug from a friend with the same radio and used the Clone tool in CPS10 to load it into my radio. Afterwards, the radio would not key any analog repeaters and gave the 'no connection' tone when trying to key digital. My friend told me this same thing happened to him when he updated his radio from analog to digital and he ended up re-creating the entire codeplug. But it seems to me there should be some way to use Clone, since it is part of CPS.
I am just wondering if I am missing anything. You would need to contact the UK Relief Organization you got the radios from. They will have bought it from a Dealer in the UK. The Dealer would also be able to provide you with a legal copy of the CPS. Optionally, if you send can email me the serial number from one of the radios, I can have the dealer who sold the radios, follow up on this?
My email address is listed above (6th icon under my profile). I cannot provide CPS in case you are wondering. The CPS also cannot be downloaded from the internet - any copies are probably pirated and infected with malware.
Firstly verify that you have full access to C: ProgramData Motorola MOTOTRBO CPS. If you are 100% sure you have access, then uninstall the CPS. Make sure you don't have any inactivated licences. on the PC then delete the%ALLUSERSPROFILE% Motorola MOTOTRBO CPS folder. Reboot and re-install the CPS by clicking on the setup.exe file (and not the autorun.exe on the DVD root folder). You could also try installing CPS version 11.0?.If you do have licences which have been registered, contact Motorola or your supplier and explain what happened so they can re-issue an EID for what was lost in this process.
I am also have the same problem. And i have done all the step that you give in previous comment.
But it not working. Can you advise me? Firstly verify that you have full access to C: ProgramData Motorola MOTOTRBO CPS.
If you are 100% sure you have access, then uninstall the CPS. Make sure you don't have any inactivated licences. on the PC then delete the%ALLUSERSPROFILE% Motorola MOTOTRBO CPS folder. Reboot and re-install the CPS by clicking on the setup.exe file (and not the autorun.exe on the DVD root folder). You could also try installing CPS version 11.0?.If you do have licences which have been registered, contact Motorola or your supplier and explain what happened so they can re-issue an EID for what was lost in this process.
Hi Wayne, I am have 2 MTR3000 on 2 sites 10Km apart, 2 freqs. When I check (using a 3rd party 'Watcher' app) - I find that only 1 slot is being used and that all the Data (ARS, GPS etc.) and voice share the same slot. I have double checked the Code plugs on the repeaters and subscriber radios (DP4801) and cannot see where I have programmed it incorrectly. I have followed your excellent tutorials, referenced the System Planner and referred to the MotoTRBO certification course and notes - still I cannot see my error. I have copies of the codeplugs I wrote on the course and also used these as a reference. Also I notice since I enabled the ARS and GPS that sometimes the speech is more like a Robot sound. Is this because of the extra activity on the slot?
I was trying to achieve slot 2 as data only (ARS, GPS, OTAP, SMS.) and Slot 1 for audio where all subscribers would talk and answer to the operations dispatcher as standard but be able to make group or private calls as an option. Would Capacity Plus be better? Would this work with my 2 repeaters being 10km apart? (I know I should use LCP but to pay €1100 per repeater is a a lot of money when I have just spent €130,000 on all the repeaters, radios, aerials, masts, etc.) Not having a go at Motorola but as an organisation, we buy through a nominated Framework Supplier/Dealer and until completing the MotoTRBO course, did not know that LCP was a (expensive) paid extra. Now it will take months to purchase the LCP and I really need to get the network up and running ASAP so I can upgrade at a later stage. Hi, I just wanted to give my experience with Mototrbo Portable and Windows 10.
It took me about a month of on and off researching to figure out why my radios would, at first, keep coming up under the COM port section of device manager which I later realized was cause when copying over my CPS and I failed to copy the Motorola Radio Driver folder. Then I ran into an issue of the radio coming up under network adapters but throwing a Code 10, 'Device won't start'. After another week of looking for new drivers thinking that was the issue, I went into Device Manager, right clicked on the Mototrbo Radio under network adapters, selected properties, selected advanced tab, clicked on Network Address, clicked value and changed the 0 to a 1 and hit okay. After that everything was working properly! Just one more check to make if nothing else is working!
Holmes, your sites and videos are really informative. Thanks for this. But I have a Problem, I couldnt find a solution. I have a DP4600e and CPS 14.0. I can connect the device and also read the information from device to CPS, but when trying to upload a config to the device, following failure pops up: 'Failure Nr. 1236 - Writing/Duplication not possible. Input one or more valid RAS-Key-Values to continue.'
(Its not the exact failure-text, because Ive translated it from german.) Whrere can I configure these Values? Hope you can help me, thank you, Kurt.
We are using DP4801 radios and we have TRBOnet dispatch software. Is there any way to remotely delete text messages on a radio (as we have sensitive information). Any of these possibilities could work for us: 1. Set inbox limit as 1 or 2, so would always override old messages sooner rather than current 30 limit.
An option to delete radio inbox remotely through TRBOnet or other software? The only solution I can think of so far is through OTAP deleting all text messages but that is hardly a practical solution. Any ideas would be helpful! Hello, I recently got a Motorola DP4400 but when programming with CPS software (build 717) asks me for a password to read the contents of the radio. Same when I want to write a configuration file. The old owner obviously does not remember the password. The DP4400 although in excellent condition, is simply unusable:( Do you know an effective method to reset it and be able to program it again?
(The method using Wireshark to sniff the connection between the PC and the radio no longer works). Thank you for your help, McBuzz.
It sounds like you might have R2.3 firmware in that radio. For a short while (for one release I think) it was possible to set a write password, in addition to the read password. A radio like this can be 'reset' by means of a device recovery. For this you'll need an upgrade package that's the same or newer than what's currently in the radio. Ideally you should be using the latest CPS and firmware - see In the CPS, go to Device, Recover Device. The remaining steps are like upgrading the firmware - see Doing a device recovery erases everything except CfS features!
I apologize for the delay in replying. I though I had replied but I dont see my reply anymore.
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It is not necessary for radio to be registered to perform any communications. If the ARS target radio is down, there will be some nimpact to communications: - Portable users will notice that their battery discharges quicker. The repeater will seem busier than usual. There may be occasions where a user gets a call reject due to a packet collsion. Other than that, there will be no impact to other operations.
Hi Wayne, I asked my distributor this question and all they said was Install the Ignition Sense kit. My problem is the description and the 2 Options plus what actually happens. I use the Ignition Sense cable on my fleet of DM4401 and DM4601. The problem we have always noticed is that If I set the Ignition Sense to Disable Ignition Off. It does not work.
It folows the Ignition sense plus auto timer. The function On/Off Or Ignition is exactly the same. I want to have the radio power on when Ignition is on and power down when ignition is off, but I also want to be able to use the manual power button and have this time out after say 20 minutes. What if the keys are lost or broken?
I need my operators to be able to power the radio and call. I also need it to auto power down if they forget to switch off. I thought this would be a better use of the Ygnition sense circuit as the 1st and 3rd options are identical.
I am on FW2.08 and the radios are brand new. The Ignition sensor kit and cable are motorola original. Any ideas on this before I give the dealer another call and insist they fix it instead of fobbing me off. If by chance you're running analogue mode: Each DP1400 needs to have a unique MDC1200 Primary ID. The TX Signaling System needs to be set to MDC Sys X. The above Primary IDs have to be added to the DM1600 Contact List.
The RX Signaling System on the channel used must be set to MDC Sys X The Signaling Squelch can be set to OR or AND. If you're running digital mode: Each DP1400 needs to have a unique Radio ID.
The radios should all be configured to transmit on the same Talkgroup. The above Radio IDs have to be added to the DM1600 Contact List. The radio also has be set up to transmit on the same Talkroup as the DP1400s.
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The RX Group List (which is what I think you are referring to) is only for Talkgroups. You should not use Talkgroups for radio identification. Hello Waynes, I just installed the new version of RM.
The installation went well, I did not get an error message. When I connect to RM Configuration Client, I have all my data. Now when I connect a radio it is no longer automatically recognized and it does not appear in the RM Device Monitor as it was the case with the previous version. In addition I can not read or program a configuration on radios. RM Device Monitor puts an error message saying that it can not communicate with the radio while it sees it. All settings in RM Server, RM Configuration Client and RM Device Monitor are identical to the old version. All applications connect to the RM Server.
I use windows 10. Can you help me?
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From a quick check on MOL, it LOOKS like you'd want part number HVN9025U which is 'CPS R06.09.06 HT/CDM/EX' - Obviously verify that before you try to order it, OK? The pricing for end-users is currently $317.00 No version of CPS that I'm aware of runs on Vista. For the Astro25 CPS (the last version I installed), the software pops a dialog during installation that says installing CPS on Vista is not supported as it will expose Vista software errors.
They even stuff a warning sheet into the box with the CD that says this! De Peter K1PGV. So why is it that when I use my Moto on the ham band, someone always notices(read;'looks down nose')? It's kind of a reverse-snobbery thing.
If you use your Moto on the ham bands, SOME goofy hams think you're trying to flaunt your money and act superior. So, they do what those types of hams do, which is treat you with scorn and make disparaging remarks.
Nicest comment I've gotten about my XTS-3K is 'What are you doing using THAT brick'? Doesn't matter that it does P25 exceptionally well and no ham transceiver does P25 at all, even though there's a ton of public safety P25 activity in my area. No, I must have my Moto radio because I'm insecure, or something. The heck with them. I know why I have it. I like the Moto radios. In fact, I have several.
De Peter K1PGV (Proud owner of 5 Motorola radios, and 3 ham transceivers). So why is it that when I use my Moto on the ham band, someone always notices(read;'looks down nose')?
I find it quite amusing when someone new to the hobby is infatuated with the Motorola brand, and goes to great lengths just to get one, in spite of possibly better choices. Now, I like my Motorolas, but after 33 years as a ham, and 32 very odd years in the business, I can get the RSS to do what I want, and I can persuade the radio to operate out of band.
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For the technically inclined, it's a fun way to get a helluva radio. And for the volunteer types like Grog mentioned, if it really MUST be public safety grade equipment, the expense and trouble can be worth it. For the newbie scanner nut that wants one to carry to Walmart because they look cool, knock yourself out. I'll be over here snickering to myself while you brick your radio. There are just as nice if not better quality radios out there such as Kenwood, Icom, Standard, Yaesu radios and many more.And I'm sure there are a few Hams out there that love Motorola.Pick your Poison so to speak.And yes with P-25 and Motorola with the right combination of unauthorized radio+administrator=bricked.LMMFAO.
But there are certain amount of people who like to be cool.I put them in the same class of people who buy and drive ex police crown vics with a spotlight around town, Just one shade away from a Whacker.LOL Hams, Public Safety, Military, Rescue teams.yea they have a legitimate reason for Motorolas. But if you like listening.Save your money and buy a scanner. Most Motorola Hand Helds won't scan more than 16 channels per zone at a time, The CPS for newer models is expensive + the programming cables + batteries. So instead of spending $500.00 for a Uniden 996 or GRE 600 you end up spending $1000.00 or more to look cool, sure the audio sounds better but if you have more money than sense enjoy your Brick.
For the newbie scanner nut that wants one to carry to Walmart because they look cool, knock yourself out. I'll be over here snickering to myself while you brick your radio. I also couldn't agree more. But why roll your eyes and assume the OP is the latter, and not the former like you? You don't need to have 33 years experience to learn to use CPS. Heck, we all had to start somewhere. It's not like CPS is.that.
difficult to learn, or every Moto radio is.that. expensive.
I think we should help folks understand when a Moto radio is likely to be appropriate and inappropriate. Help inform and guide new folks. Try to keep them out of trouble and help them advance their hobby goals.
Not roll our eyes at them. Before discovering Moto radios, I put up with years of using scanners that had bad selectivity, poor sensitivity, and crappy P25 decoding. I sure wish somebody had told ME that if I bought a banged-up Astro Saber from a reputable seller, I'd solve these problems, have a radio I can use on the local 2M repeaters, AND add an entirely new aspect to my hobby.
De Peter K1PGV. There are just as nice if not better quality radios out there such as Kenwood, Icom, Standard, Yaesu radios and many more.And I'm sure there are a few Hams out there that love Motorola.Pick your Poison so to speak.And yes with P-25 and Motorola with the right combination of unauthorized radio+administrator=bricked.LMMFAO. But there are certain amount of people who like to be cool.I put them in the same class of people who buy and drive ex police crown vics with a spotlight around town, Just one shade away from a Whacker.LOL Hams, Public Safety, Military, Rescue teams.yea they have a legitimate reason for Motorolas. But if you like listening.Save your money and buy a scanner. Most Motorola Hand Helds won't scan more than 16 channels per zone at a time, The CPS for newer models is expensive + the programming cables + batteries.
So instead of spending $500.00 for a Uniden 996 or GRE 600 you end up spending $1000.00 or more to look cool, sure the audio sounds better but if you have more money than sense enjoy your Brick. Why do people keep talking about bricking their motorolas? I've pulled the programming cable from a XTS5000 half way through programming a codeplug - radio failed, but re-writing the c/p brings it back to life. I've pulled the programming cable from a CDM1250 during a FIRMWARE flash!! Still no brick, just put it back into boot mode, and re-write the firmware - better than new.
While I type this, I'm flashing a XTS5K with new firmware. Pulled the programmign cable off maybe 1/3 through the process. Hrmmm lets see what happens. Can't say why people are SO paranoid about 'bricking' a Motorola. It's NOT easy to brick these Motorolas, you have to work real hard to actually brick a radio. Maybe I need to start playing with the old skool Mactrax stuff to brick my first Motorola. Ok, the XTS5K is reflashed and working, so it didn't get 'bricked' either.
How in the world is everyone bricking their Motorolas?? I try on purpose to brick a Motorola, and can't.
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De Peter K1PGV. So why is it that when I use my Moto on the ham band, someone always notices(read;'looks down nose')? The Big Bang Theory Stagione 1 720p Ita Download Free. It's kind of a reverse-snobbery thing.
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